From palm to android

How to migrate or synchronize Palm OS data to an Android phone or tablet?

Currently, there is no straight way to transfer information from Palm OS PDA to Android Phone directly.

With our DesktopMirror for Google and Palm Desktop software, you may sync the Palm or Palm Desktop Contacts and Calendar information to your Google account, then your Android phone or tablet may get the synchronized information from Google.

The steps are quite simple:
Step 1: Use DesktopMirror for Google and Palm Desktop to transfer Palm Desktop information to Google Contacts and Google Calendar.

Step 2: Sync your Android Phone with Google by Google Sync. For more information about Google phone sync, you may visit http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/.

For more information about how to use DesktopMirror for Google and Palm Desktop, please visit the online help page.

DesktopMirror for Google and Palm Desktop only costs you $26.95 and we have the 30-day money back gurantee.

Compatible Phone / Devices:

The DesktopMirror software runs on the PC side and it synchronizes Palm Desktop and Google Apps data.

It is compatible with all the Android OS phones or tablets that could sync with Google, for example:

HTC One	Sony Xperia Z	LG Spirit 4G	Motorola Eletrify M
Samsung Galaxy S3	Samsung Galaxy Note 2	Motorola Droid DNA	LG Nexus 4
LG Optimus G	Motorola Photon Q	Motorola Droid RAZR	Samsung Galaxy S III
Motorola Droid	Motorola Cliq	HTC Hero	HTC Droid Eris
Motorola Devour	Acer Liquid	Nexus One	HTC Incredible
LG Ally	Motorola Droid X	Samsung Captivate	Samsung Vibrant
Samsung Epic 4G	Motorola Droid 2	T-Mobile G2	Motorola Droid Pro
Dell Streak	Samsung Nexus S	Motorola Cliq 2	HTC Inspire 4G
Samsung Galaxy S 4G	Samsung Galaxy Tab

Migrate information from other Apps to Google or Android:

If you need to migrate other information to Android or Google account, you may check out our InfoMigrator for Google software.

If lets you migrate Contacts and Calendar events from Outlook, Lotus Notes and Sage ACT! to Google step by step.

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Dancing Droid

I converted from my Palm OS to Android about a year and a half ago. My conversion methods are detailed in this Blog. My girlfriend also converted from Palm to Android maybe two months after me. However, she been carrying two phones since then, her Treo 755p and her Android. Reason being, she did not want to suffer through transferring her eWallet passwords to her Android. Well this weekend we bit the bullet and got it done. Here is how.

What you’ll need.

• A PC running Windows XP and one running Windows 7 or a modern version of Windows.
• Your Palm Smart Phone and USB Hotsync cable
• Palm Desktop 6.2 on the XP PC. Download from HP’s site here.
• eWallet 6.1 for PC and for Palm OS. Download from Iliumsoft.com here. (Free trail for 30 days)
• Current version of eWallet for Windows. (Version 7 as of this writing.) This is for the Windows 7 PC Download from Iliumsoft.com here. (Free trail for 30 days)
• eWallet GO! for Android. Download from the Market here.

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Migration path:
eWallet on Palm OS -> Palm Desktop 6.2 -> eWallet 6.1 -> eWallet Backup File -> eWallet 7 -> eWallet GO! for Android.

Step 1. Get your eWallet passwords onto your Palm Desktop on the XP PC.

• If you don’t already have it, download and install the Palm Desktop 6.2 from HP here
• Likewise download and install the eWallet 6.1 from Iliumsoft.com here if needed.
• Run the HotSync Manager. Start -> All Programs -> Palm -> Hotsync Manager. Then right click over the HotSync Manager Icon on your task bar and choose Settings.
• Click on Applications and un-check every application except eWallet.
• Click the Configure button and choose Handheld overwrites Desktop
• If you have any protected memos in the memo pad you’ll need that password
• Press the Hotsync button.

If all goes well you’ll have your eWallet passwords sync’ed to your PC.

Step 2. Backup your eWallet file and transfer it to your Windows 7 PC

• Run eWallet, enter your password, then choose Tools -> Make Backup… Choose location and file name to save you eWallet backup file
• Transfer your eWallet backup file from you XP system to your Window 7 system. Popular methods are email, usb key drive, Dropbox, Sugar Sync, ftp, etc…

You now have your passwords on the Windows 7 box. Almost there.

Step 3.Convert your wallet to eWallet 7.0 on Windows 7

(You might be able to do this on the XP machine as well,I did not try it.)

• Download and install eWallet 7 from Iliumsoft.com here.
• Launch eWallet and open the backed up wallet you transferred earlier.
• Say yes to the format conversion confirmation
• Backup your converted Wallet to your hard drive

You’ve got your wallet in the version 7 format.

Step 4. Convert your eWallet file to eWallet GO! format

• Download the eWallet to eWallet GO! conversion tool from Iliumsoft.com here.
• Install the above tool. If you get an error stating you need “Microsoft Common Language Runtime Version 4.0.30319.0”. Download that from Microsoft.com here.
• Run the eWallet GO! conversion utility and import the Wallet you backed in eWallet version 7.
• Follow the remaining steps to save your converted wallet to Dropbox. If you don’t have drop box visit The Dropbox official site to open an account. You can also use Google Docs as a backup medium.

Step 5. Import the eWallet GO! Wallet into your Android

Okay, the last step is the easiest one.

• Purchase, download, and install eWallet GO! for Android from the Market here
• Start eWallet GO! on your Android
• Choose Menu -> More > Restore -> Dropbox and enter your Dropbox login and password
• Press Restore.

Now your passwords are on your Android. All is right with the world.

Let us know if you have a better way to get your eWallet passwords from your Palm device to your Android. And, as always let me know if you have any issues with this procedure.

Please leave comments below. If you have questions feel free to post them our new forum here.

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Thank you for the information but I am not that good and I am trying to transfer my memo information from Palm(z22) to my Galaxy s4 phone. Will this process do that?
Thank you for your help.

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Migrating from Palm to Android: essential apps

I’ve been gradually moving from Palm to Android. In some ways this is a step back, because Android is a lot less polished than Palm. On the other hand, it’s a platform where people are actually writing code.

My perspective is a little different from most: I didn’t want to rely on Google to sync my calendar, contacts, etc. I wanted to do that myself. Palm makes it easy; Android makes it hard.

I’m running a Samsung Infuse with Android 2.2.1 currently. Here are the apps I’ve discovered so far to make the Android experience easier. Because I’m cheap, they’re all free unless otherwise noted:

• The calendar app is the most obvious place where Android flunks. I’ve been able to get by with aCalendar for calendar display. It is a lot like the Palm app, and is actively supported. Android also sucks with alarms, so I use Calendar Event Reminder (paid app, around USD 2.50) so I get more than a single “ding” when the alarm goes off. Finally, I use iCal Import/Export to get my calendar events out to the SD card. This is no longer supported by its author unfortunately. It relies on unsupported API as well to get calendar data – but so far that’s the only one. (I heard from the author of aCalendar that he’s thinking about adding export code, though, so there may be hope there. He’s got a Pro verison due out soon, and I’m hopeful. I’ll definitely pay for it when it comes out.)
• To see a percentage representation of battery life (similar to what you’d get on a Palm when you tap the battery icon) I use Battery Indicator.
• I had Noah Pro on my Palm, so I wanted a good dictionary app. ColorDict Dictionary Wikipedia includes all of Noah Pro, and additional files and the ability to do web searches if you’re online. Very nice. (One hint: you need to install dictionary files separately, then run them before you can use them. Looks like a lot of Android users can’t figure that one out.)
• Of course, you’ll need Graffiti for the real experience. I was happy enough with it that I went to the paid version, Graffiti Pro.
• I had Yaps for password storage on the Palm. I eventually migrated to KeePassDroid. Here are more details about migrating from Yaps to KeePassDroid.
• Android search is also pretty lame, especially in contacts. I use Power Search when I really want to find something.
• On Palm, I loved EasyCalc. The best calculator I’ve found so far is RealCalc Scientific Calculator.
• For games, I installed the Ken Magic Solitaire, since it seemed least likely to want to leak my info all over the world.
• To back up applications themselves, I use ASTRO File Manager. This app is able to copy existing apps that don’t have the copy-prevent bit set onto the SD card.
• Finally, to copy all the files up to a server, I use the SAMBA client AndSMB rather than messing around with USB or swapping out SD cards.
• I’ve installed Memento Database as a replacement for JFile, but so far have not transferred my data over, so I can’t say how good it is.

The most surprising thing is the app I haven’t found a replacement for yet – the Notepad! All the apps I have seen so far want to sync to the cloud, rather than letting me export to SD. Bummer. I did use What’s for Dinner Premium for my notes which are recipes, and I think it’s great. (I got this free on the Amazon app store for their free app of the day; normally it’s about USD 2.00.) Right now I’m using the Samsung Memo app (installed with their Android builds) for the rest, but it can’t export so I’m not using it for much. If you know of a Notepad app that doesn’t want network access, please let me know in the comments.

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Dancing Droid

I’ve had a history of PDA/Handhelds in my life. Let’s see:

Handspring Edge -> Handspring 300 -> Treo 600 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 755p -> HTC Hero.

The choice to jump from a Palm OS to something else was not easy. I have many years of data stored on my trustee Treo. Passwords, Financial information, stock portfolios, notes, and the list goes on. But, lets face it, Palm OS is antiquated, slow, and crashed too much. So, I took the plunge.

In the next few articles I’ll discuss my conversion and how I got from here to there.

In brief, I need to transfer or convert:

Phone numbers Ebooks (Mobipocket and eReader) Passwords (SplashID) Stock Portfolio (Stock Manager) Backup software (Backup Buddy) Calendar (Date Book 6)

Dictionary (Dictionary to Go) Office Suite (Documents to Go) Memo Pad Email (Snapper Mail) Shopping list (Splash Shopper) Financial (Splash Money)

I wasted a ridiculous amount of time transferring my contacts from the Treo to the HTC Hero. I began by following instructions I found to sync the phone with the Palm Desktop. Then export the contacts into a csv file. Next, create headers in the csv file to describe the data in each column. Then, import this file into Gmail and sync with your Android phone. While this worked it populated the Gmail contact fields incorrectly. I then had to copy the contact information from the notes field to the correct field for each contact. I fought with this over the course of a few days until I did the following:

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1. Sync your contacts with the Palm Desktop

2. Export each category separately to vcard (.vcf) files. (Select all records in your contact category before exporting)

3. In Gmail contacts, create a group that corresponds to the Palm category exported in step 2.

4. Import the vcf file into the appropriate category.

With this method I had 90% of my contacts correctly imported. The exceptions where in my business category where I did not have a first or last name for the contact. I only had a company name. For these contacts I had to move the business name from the company name field to the first name field.

Hopefully this saves you time if you have to transfer your contacts from your Palm Treo to an Android phone.

Please leave comments below. If you have questions feel free to post them our new forum here.

P.S. If you are like me and have not Hotsync’d your Palm in years, here is a link for the Palm Desktop. Download Palm Desktop Here.
Also, If you are having trouble syncing, i.e. it just hangs during the sync, like mine did, try dbScan from PimlicoSoftware:
dbScan. Search for dbScan on the page.

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Can someone tell me how to contact JOHN to get a copy of his conversion program? The links in the 1o/24/10 posting don’t work for me. I would love to convert all of my 1,000++ Palm contacts from my desktop to Gmail and then a new Motorola Droid 3.

This link still works.

Thank you Terry. I did go to that site, but my security software (Trend Micro) said that the “megaupload” site was known to contain some malicious stuff. You can probably tell from my verbiage that I am a PC neophyte, so I get very cautious with these kinds of warnings. That said, I think you put the program there originally – true? If so, can I presume you have confidence in the site?

I will vouch for that link. I got the program from John and put it on Megaupload.

Terry – many thanks.

Can I get copy of the software to convert from treo to google then to android? Megan load is down. Thanks gentlemen in advance

I re-uploaded the software here:

(Disclaimer: Dancingdroid.com assumes no responsibility for any damage or loss of data that may result from using this software. It is being posted here for the convenience of those that asked)

Fantastic Terry ! Thank you from ROME, Italy.
Your process to transfer contacts (over 800) from my Treo 650 to my new Motorola Defy Plus 526 was simply and successfull.

All my contacts (and their notes) I exported as vCard File from Palm Desktop and imported to Gmail account and then wifi sync to Motorola are in good health !
And this is working with Apple and Mac os X Lion.
Thanks again.
Lucas

Great to hear that it worked for you!

Enjoy your Defy.

Will the data transfer described above work with a Palm TX to a Motorola Bravo? I’m new at this and don’t have a clue.
Frank

Yes. The transfer should work from any PalmOS device to any Android, as long as you get your contacts to the Palm Desktop.

Awesome. That was so easy. 300 contacts transferred in a few minutes. Thanks so much!!

Glad I could help.

Late to respond, but I think I found an app that does what you want. I, too, was a long-time palm user and couldn’t face making the switch to a smartphone. I researched like crazy until I found this app called B-Folders. I was able to just *import* all of my memos (over 1,200) and contacts from Palm desktop (no re-keying).

Since 1994 I’d been using some form of Palm device – I had a LOT of data and a lot of familiarity, but I wanted to get rid of “contact” duplication and add the phone/texting/email options to my “Palm” system. I didn’t want my stuff on “the cloud” – I’d run an encrypted program to store my passwords on Palm (and on my MacBook Pro) and I didn’t want to give up that security just to have everything in one place.

I actually shopped for a palm-type application before committing to my smartphone. Finding a “Graffiti” app for Android began the process, and also took the iPhone out of the running even though my laptop is a MacBook Pro. Finding B-Folders nailed my decision: This was exactly what I was looking for. And after installation (and now after over a year of daily use), I have never had a moment’s disappointment.

I looked at Memento, too – but it just didn’t do what I wanted. I wanted *everything* in one app, with one sync, not on the cloud. B-Folders has really been able to do that (besides its easy, mistake-proof migration).

And it’s better than PalmOS in its customizations: no limits on “number of categories” or “number of characters in the category’s name” – everything is *very* open-ended. And the development seems to continue – with free updates being released often. It works equally well for business and home applications and easy backups provide the best security – especially when I’ve never had to use them.

Thanks for your comment!

Wow–Thanks, Kay. Similarly situated–tenaciously clinging to me Treo 700 with 2000 contacts and all sorts of info from the past few Palm platform devices (pre-phone!). I synch daily, and do NOT want to use “the cloud” for a variety of reasons.

I appreciate the link. May be time to move on . …

I was similarly entrenched in the Palm world (I had two pre-Treos, then 600-650-670). I also had many years of calendar, contact and memo data that I didn’t want to give up.

I started looking at Android products in 2008 but couldn’t find a Palm-to-Android solution. In mid-2010 I found DejaOffice which syncs both ways with Palm Desktop, so I tried it out. I was pleasantly surprised. The Android portion of DejaOffice is free but the PC sync portion is about $30. I don’t and won’t use Google or any other online storage, so I had to be able to sync locally. (I’ve been in computers for a long time: there’s no such thing as security when you don’t know where your data is.) In late 2010 I switched over.

The Palm desktop-to-Android conversion was painless: I installed the DejaOffice PC program and synced. That was nice! DejaOffice also interconnects with Act! and other PIM software, not just Palm, and they also have an iPhone client. (I’m not associated with them – just satisfied.)

I can’t say it has been worry-free, but that’s mostly because (IMO) the Android is not as robust as a Palm. Sorry, but it’s been true in my experience. The Treo was first and foremost a phone: turn it on and place a call, but with good app integration. The Android is first and foremost a computer: turn it on, find the phone app, and place a call – if it doesn’t hang. I hate going backward in reliability but since the Palm series is gone (insert sad face here), Android is the next best thing for my needs.

Wow, I feel like I have found “Palm Anonymous”. I’ve had my palm data going since my Handspring (1999) and been through all the Treos. I am still using a Treo 755p (and have a backup ready to replace the current one!) partly because of the long-time data, partly because of the single-button speed dial, and partly because of the ability to copy with a swipe of my fingernail. Also, I don’t want to be forced to pay the data fee. With the Treo I can still do without the data package. I tried the iPhone but hated the push/hold/expand approach to copying. I also REALLY missed the single-button speed dial feature.

Now that the data conversion has been taken care of (thanks all above), I just need to fix the copy and speed dial features. Does anyone know if there is a current smartphone that has a “thumbnail” swipe to copy feature? Since hard buttons are pretty much gone I assume the only way to fix the “single-button” speed dial issue is with voice command. Are there any current smart phones out there that have both of these features? Does “B-folders” or “DejaOffice” offer either of these features?

Another question. The B-folder and DejaOffice work with Android but will they work as well with the Google OS converting Palm data? I am thinking about a Samsung Galaxy.

Another easy to follow instructions. My Palm address book is now on Android. Many thanks again.

Many, many thanks. Your instructions were just what I needed. I spent many hours in futile attempts to convert Palm and got totally frustrated. I finally got them onto gmail, the rest should be easy.
TallPaul

Glad you got your data converted.

can anyone load the software again?
both links are broken

The software has been re-uploaded here:

HI Terry – managed to DL the VCF2P2G.exe but the instructions on the web page are obscured by advert so i’m unsure how/when to use it. Any chance of you providing some pointers?

Here are John’s original instructions along with my notes below each step. Hopefully the notes make it more clear.
Let me know. Good luck.

1. Make sure you don’t have “PRINTABLE:” anywhere in your contacts (including address, notes, etc.) Use the Palm search function to check your contacts.

In the Palm Desktop type ‘PRINTABLE’ in the Look Up field. If you find any remove that word from the contact.

2. Use the VCF export function to export all your contact data to VCF files. If you have multiple categories (e.g. business, personal, untitled) you can select a category in your Palm desktop, highlight ALL the contacts in that category, use the Export VCF option off the ‘file’ menu, and give it a name like ‘personal.vcf

Choose one of the categories like Personal and select all contacts. Edit -> Select All
Choose File -> Export vCard. Choose to save it on your desktop and call it Personal.vcf
Do this for each category you have.
When you are done you will have one file for each category you have in your Palm Desktop on your Windows Desktop. Business.vcf, Personal.vcf, etc…

3. Request the conversion program from me and I will email it to you with an extension “TXT.” Download the conversion program VCFp2g.txt to the same folder as you exported the VCF file(s) and rename the file to VCFp2g.exe

Get the program from here: http://ge.tt/3HS6dLe/v/0 and save it to your Windows Desktop

4. Run the program. It asks for a VCF file name. Enter the name e.g. personal or personal.vcf. It creates a GMAIL formatted file gmailX.VCF. Since my program always creates gmailX.vcf I renamed it after each conversion, e.g. I renamed GmailX.vcf to Gpersonal.vcf, to reflect the category for the contact card file.

5. Import gmailX.vcf (or if you rename it to something like Gpersonal.vcf, use that) into GMAIL. Before importing, you can specify a group using the category names you are familiar with in Palm

A.
Run VCFp2g.exe
At the prompt: Palm File to convert:
Enter Personal
This will create a file called GMAILX.VCF
Rename this file to be GPersonal.VCF
Repeat step A for each file you created in step 2.

B.
In Gmail contacts. Choose More -> Import
Select a .vcf file you created in step 2
Click Import
You should have a new ‘Imported’ group with today’s date
Rename this group to match file category you imported. More -> Rename Group
Repeat step B for each file you created in step 2.

I have used my Palm Tunsgsten E2 for the past 20 some years. I recently switched to an Android phone. I too had some hesitation.
Why does it take 2 or more devices to do what one Palm PDA does?

Now that I have done the steps and saved all my contacts to my desktop, I need the conversion program, please.
Thanks!

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