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  1. There is / there are 1 apple and 1 pear?
  2. JerryLCC
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There is / there are 1 apple and 1 pear?

JerryLCC

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I remember that we should say: there ARE one thing and another thing right?

no matter if there are plural objects or a group of that object, we should use ARE, right?

There are 1 A and 1 B or
There are 8 As

the only way we will use IS, will be

There is a person or
There is a table

Biffo

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The sentence «There is one pear and there is one apple.» Is correct. We can abbreviate it —> «There is one pear and [there is] one apple.» —> «There is one pear and one apple.»

If however there is one apple and two pears, we agree with whichever is nearest the verb.

«There are two pears and one apple.»

«There is one apple and two pears.»

I hope that does not sound too complicated!

JerryLCC

Senior Member

Thank you for your solution, then what about grass or meet, about those noncountable nouns, we should use is or are?

Myridon

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In speaking, we often don’t think (or count the objects) that far ahead so it is not unusual to hear someone say:
There is . two pears and one apple.
but not
There are . one apple.
We often go ahead and say «There is» and then see no point in starting over to correct it.

There is (some) meat on the table and (some) grass in the garden.

Biffo

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Myridon

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JerryLCC

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Biffo

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Biffo

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Yes. With uncountable nouns we use «is».

There is meat on the table.
There is some meat on the table.
There is some fresh meat on the table.
There is no meat on the table.
There is an unbelievable amount of meat on the table.
etc.

Note
When the meat becomes countable then we use the appropriate number.

There are pieces of meat on the table.
There is one piece of meat.
There are two pieces of meat.
There are large quantities of meat.

You can see that in this case we say «of meat».

RM1(SS)

Senior Member

The sentence «There is one pear and there is one apple.» Is correct. We can abbreviate it —> «There is one pear and [there is] one apple.» —> «There is one pear and one apple.»

If however there is one apple and two pears, we agree with whichever is nearest the verb.

«There are two pears and one apple.»

«There is one apple and two pears.»

JerryLCC

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JerryLCC

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alex_864

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The sentence «There is one pear and there is one apple.» Is correct. We can abbreviate it —> «There is one pear and [there is] one apple.» —> «There is one pear and one apple.»

If however there is one apple and two pears, we agree with whichever is nearest the verb.

«There are two pears and one apple.»

«There is one apple and two pears.»

I hope that does not sound too complicated!

Sorry if you use «There are» in «There are two pears and one apple.» because «two pears» is a plural noun, so why still we say «There is two buses»? In my example «two buses» is a plural noun and «there are» sould be used, shouldn’t be?

Biffo

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Sorry if you use «There are» in «There are two pears and one apple.» because «two pears» is a plural noun, so why still we say «There is two buses»? In my example «two buses» is a plural noun and «there are» sould be used, shouldn’t be?

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alex_864

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Biffo

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No, the AE/BE difference only seems to apply when we are talking about different types of objects and different numbers, e.g. ‘There is/are one apple and two pears‘. The difficulty comes from sharing a verb.

I suspect that you have have heard, «There’s two buses.» rather than «There is two buses.» Both are grammatically wrong but it’s true that some people say the former. It’s a rather lazy way of talking.

alex_864

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No, the AE/BE difference only seems to apply when we are talking about different types of objects and different numbers, e.g. ‘There is/are one apple and two pears‘. The difficulty comes from sharing a verb.

I suspect that you have have heard, «There’s two buses.» rather than «There is two buses.» Both are grammatically wrong but it’s true that some people say the former. It’s a rather lazy way of talking.

e2efour

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There is a long-standing tradition in English of always using the singular with a plural noun (e.g. there’s two ways of looking at it).
If you look this kind of sentence up on the corpuses, you will find many examples (in the hundreds). It is, however, limited to speech and «speechlike prose». But it cannot be dismissed as grammatically wrong.

The famous grammarian Otto Jespersen had a theory that people often say There is/There’s before they have decided whether to use a singular or plural noun.

In the title of the thread a case can be made for there is OR there are one apple and one pear.

alex_864

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There is a long-standing tradition in English of always using the singular with a plural noun (e.g. there’s two ways of looking at it).
If you look this kind of sentence up on the corpuses, you will find many examples (in the hundreds). It is, however, limited to speech and «speechlike prose». But it cannot be dismissed as grammatically wrong.

The famous grammarian Otto Jespersen had a theory that people often say There is/There’s before they have decided whether to use a singular or plural noun.

In the title of the thread a case can be made for there is OR there are one apple and one pear.

Thanks, so grammatically «There are two buses» is the correct one! Also I was wondering the differences between «There’s two buses.» and «There is two buses.»?

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Ivan_I

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As far as I know ANY as well as A can be used with a countable singular noun.

Any schoolchild would know that.

But what happens in here?

1) Is there any apple in the basket? (wrong if it means ONE APPLE)
2) Is there an apple in the basket? (OK)

Why is it that ANY in sentence 1 is not supposed to be used? Is it because APPLE can be uncountable as well?

owlman5

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Ivan_I

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Hello owlman5! Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately this time I haven’t managed to put it clear enough, this is why I think you missed the point of the question.

1) A plural form of nouns is out of scope in my question a priori. Hence, we are not to consider «apples» here at all.
2) Do you agree that 1 is wrong while 2 is ok if only one apple is implied?
3) I know «Is there an apple» doesn’t sound very idiomatic, but it’s correct in terms of grammar rules.

entangledbank

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Ivan_I

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RM1(SS)

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Yes, but some has a different meaning in that sentence.

There is some man in the room. — There is a man in the room, but I don’t know who he is and didn’t care enough to find out.

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PaulQ

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Yes but this would mean There is a man in my room and I have no idea who he is, he could be anyone.

‘Some’ is operates in the same way that entangledbank gave for ‘any.»

As RMS has said, some (like any) has different meanings.

pob14

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Hello owlman5! Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately this time I haven’t managed to put it clear enough, this is why I think you missed the point of the question.

1) A plural form of nouns is out of scope in my question a priori. Hence, we are not to consider «apples» here at all.

Ivan_I

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Ivan_I

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Yes, but some has a different meaning in that sentence.

There is some man in the room. — There is a man in the room, but I don’t know who he is and didn’t care enough to find out.

Why then can’t SOME have that meaning which you call «a different meaning» in the case with «apple»? I fail to follow the logic.

There is some apple in the basket. — IS WRONG
There is some man in the room. — IS OK

pob14

Senior Member

Because we don’t typically think of apples as unique individuals, as we do with people.

«Where’s Fred, my favorite apple?»
«Well, there’s some apple or other in the basket, but I don’t know if it’s Fred or not.»

Also, if apples were crushed or diced in preparation for making applesauce, this could work:

«I need a half cup of crushed apple for this recipe. Is there any apple left in the basket?»
«Yes, there’s some apple in the basket.»

Ivan_I

Banned

Would this one work?
There is some car in the street.

PS: By the way, does SOME really imply uniqueness?

pob14

Senior Member

I think it would be considerably less common than «there is a car in the street,» unless there was some reason to wonder about its identity:

«Hey, Ivan, there’s some car in your reserved parking spot.» This would suggest that I believe it’s not your car, but I don’t know whose it is.

Ivan_I

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I think it would be considerably less common than «there is a car in the street,» unless there was some reason to wonder about its identity:

«Hey, Ivan, there’s some car in your reserved parking spot.» This would suggest that I believe it’s not your car, but I don’t know whose it is.

That’s what I am talking about. You see, in post 4 is said rather categorically by entangledbank’s that
There is some apple in the basket.
But later it turns out that it’s OK to say

There is some man in the room.
and the following can be OK too
There is some car in the street.

entangledbank

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Ivan_I

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Can it be the case

any — one of a certain group

— Five apples have just fallen off the tree and one of them fell in the basket. Which one of them is in th basket?
— There is any apple in the basket. (There can be any apple. )

a — just one (without a group)
There is an apple in the basket.

Myridon

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Ivan_I

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Myridon

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PaulQ

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1.
A: — Pass me a hammer.
B:- Which hammer, I have three hammers
A: — Any hammer -> it doesn’t matter which hammer -> one hammer from amongst many hammers. -> a random hammer.

2.
A: I saw a man with blue hair today.
B: Which man?
A: I don’t know, some man. -> it doesn’t matter which man -> one man from amongst many men. -> a random man.

3.
A: What sort of fruit do you have?
B: Grapes, oranges, pears…
A: do you have any apples -> a random quantity of apples

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4.
A: What have you in your bag?
B: Apples… [opens bag] take one.
A: Can I take any apple? -> a random apple of my choice.
B: Yes, any – they’re all much the same.

5.
A: Any man can lift this weight. -> a random man.

Ivan_I

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Ivan_I

Banned

I have come across new context where «ANY» fits in.

1) «Is there a red car in the street?»
«No.»
«A blue car?»
«No.»
«A green one?»
«No.»
«Is there any car in the street?»
«Yes, there’s a yellow one.»

I hope you agree that «Is there any car in the street?» is OK here?

2) Now what is the difference between these two

A) Is there an apple on the table that you would like to take home with you?

B) Is there any apple on the table that you would like to take home with you?

Andygc

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Ivan_I

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Well, what about «book»?
A) Is there a book on the table that you would like to take home with you?

B) Is there any book on the table that you would like to take home with you?

PaulQ

Senior Member

A) Is there an apple/a book on the table that you would like to take home with you?

B) Is there any apple/book on the table that you would like to take home with you?

It is a question of (i) countable nouns as opposed to (ii) weakly and (iii) strongly uncountable nouns combined with the two meanings/uses of «any» plus the multiple meanings of «a/an» together with the guidance concerning an uncountable noun.

Bear in mind that «a/an» can also mean «any» «A cat is a good pet» = «Any cat is a good pet.» (There is a slight difference in nuance but here it can be ignored.)

Advice is strongly uncountable:

1. I like advice
2. *I like advices
3. *I like an advice
4. *I like an advices
5. I like any advice
6. *I like any advices
7. *I like good advice
8. *I like good advices
9. *I like a good advice
10. *I like a good advices
11. I like any good advice
12. *I like any good advices

Book is almost always countable

1. *I like book
2. I like books
3. I like a book
4. *I like a books
5. I like any book
6. I like any books
7. *I like good book
8. I like good books
9. I like a good book
10. *I like a good books
11. I like any good book
12. I like any good books

Wine is weakly uncountable (it is frequently used in both forms)

1. I like wine
2. I like wines
3. I like a wine
4. *I like a wines
5. I like any wine
6. I like any wines
7. I like good wine
8. I like good wines
9. I like a good wine
10. *I like a good wines
11. I like any good wine
12. I like any good wines

Take any book -> Any + singular countable noun = “it doesn’t matter which”

“take any books (that you want.”) -> Any + plural countable noun (usually + qualification) = “It doesn’t matter which quantity of”

Do not take any book(s) -> Negative + any + singular/plural countable noun = “no quantity” -> Take no book.

“Do you have any advice for me? Any + uncountable noun = “a quantity of”

“I don’t have any advice for you.” -> Negative + any + uncountable noun = “no quantity of” – I have no advice

1. Know what you want to express
2. Get clearly in your mind the two meanings of «any/some» and «a/an».
3. Ask yourself if you intend to use the noun as countable or uncountable.

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